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December 28, 1999 to December 31, 1999
Message 34
Date: Dec 28 1999
From: Vincent Cirivello
Subject: Re: Galluzzo Surname
Message: My mother, Maria (Marie) Pusateri worked for the Cira family in Toronto
Canada.
My grandfather was Colagero Pusateri from Termini.
Message 35
Date: Dec 29 1999
From: Donna Guiffre
Subject: RE: Purpura name variations
Message: Sandy and Frank: - my gg-grandmother was Salvadora Aglieri RINELLA born
about 1805, probably in Termini (that is where all my family is from). Her
father's name was Giuseppe Aglieri RINELLA. This is all the info I have of
this family so was wondering if any of your RINELLA family go back this far?
Salvadora married my gg-grandfather Gaetano GIUFFRE
Message 36
Date: Dec 29 1999
From: Bob Pusateri
Subject: Re: Galluzzo Surname
Message: Vincent,
Would you know what your Father's father and grandfather's name were. There
are at least four of us on the list who are looking for PUSATERI family
members from Termini Imerese. So far we cannot find a link between us.
My side as far as I know has Vincenzo Pusateri born abt 1812; Andrea Pusateri
his son born abt 1835; Cosimo Pusateri born 1866 who later immigrated to US
winding up in St. Louis and possibly living for a while in Pittsburgh
1888-1892 or so.
My Cira grandmother is also from Termini Imerese and came directly to US in
1894 to get married to grandpa as arranged by their fathers.
Message 37
Date: Dec 29 1999
From: Bob Pusateri
Subject: Re: Galluzzo Surname
Message: I meant your mothers family. Would you know who are Colagero's father and
grandfather, and about when were they born? This would help maybe tie your
family to one of ours.
Message 38
Date: Dec 29 1999
From: Pat Palmisano
Subject: Re: Galluzzo Surname
Message: I have a Rosina Pusitero in my files. She was married to Leonardo Palmisano
and died around 1866. I'm not actively researching her but would love to had
any information about her to my files. She would be my husband's great
grandmother. Based on comments made here about the corruption of other
names, I wonder if her name would be Pusiteri instead of Pusitero? Any
comments, anyone?
Message 39
Date: Dec 29 1999
From: Donna Guiffre
Subject: RE: Galluzzo Surname
Message: Bob - although I am not researching the PUSATERI surname I do have quite a
few in my GIUFFRE database.
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~guiffre/gedpage_giuffre/names3.htm#PUSATERI
I'm sorry I can't tell you anymore than what you can see here, but maybe
this will help
Message 41
Date: Dec 29 1999
From: Sandra Clark
Subject: Re: Purpura name variations
Message: Donna, I've only gotten back to 1872 so far. I've written to Termini for
more info. but from what the others on this list said about waiting, I
don't think I'll know anything until April.
Message 43
Date: Dec 29 1999
From: Frank Petro
Subject: Re: Pusitero name -attn PPalmis263
Message: Pat,
You were asking if the name Pusitero might be a variation of Pusiteri. I
can't answer that for sure, but I can tell you that currently there are no
phone listings at all anywhere in Italy, under the last name of Pusitero.
Message 44
Date: Dec 29 1999
From: Frank Petro
Subject: Rinella family - for Guiffre & Clark
Message: I had forgot to mention in my note to Sandy Clark yesterday, that I came
across a Termini marriage certificate from 1824 which had Rinella names on
it.
It listed the groom as Giacamo Zuccaro (age 43) - son of Giovanni Zuccaro and
Maria Rinella.
The bride was Ignazia Sunzeri (age 28) - daughter of Antonino Sunzeri and
Francesca Rinella.
Since there were two Rinella's mentioned in there, I thought it would be of
interest to you. At this point I'm not sure if the groom's father (Giovanni
Zuccaro) belongs on my Zuccaro family tree. He could possibly be a brother
of my g-g-g-grandfather.
Also, I found it interesting that both of the mother-in-laws were named
Rinella . Possibly the married couple were cousins - not that unusual......
Message 48
Date: Dec 30 1999
From: Bob Pusateri
Subject: Re: Galluzzo Surname
Message: I've seen a few different variations of Pusateri, an "a" or "o" in place of
the "u" and also a "o" added to the end, during my searches and this could be
another one.
Message 49
Date: Dec 30 1999
From: Pat Palmisano
Subject: Re: Galluzzo Surname
Message: This is probably a common mistake among latin names....even family members
spell it differently so looking at a death certificate (which is where I got
it) is not a sure bet. I hope the certificates I receive from Termini. I'll
report back!!
Message 51
Date: Dec 30 1999
From: Sandra Clark
Subject: Chiesa Matrice
Message: I don't know how many of you are familiar with the Toronto-Termini
Journal, but in the July issue the editor suggested that the
Chiesa(Church) Matrice in Termini is a good source for records. I was
wondering if anyone has written to them and had any luck.
Message 52
Date: Dec 30 1999
From: Pat Palmisano
Subject: Re: Chiesa Matrice
Message: I'm not familiar with this, Sandy, how does one subscribe? Also, what is the
name of the church in Termini? Someone mentioned that the LDS church has
microfilm records of the church documents but I haven't checked that out yet.
Message 53
Date: Dec 30 1999
From: Corie Lindemann
Subject: Sunzeri
Message: Thanks for the tidbit on Sunzeri in your Rinella posting, Frank! I'm
researching the Sunzeri/Sunseri names from Termini Imerese and Trabia. Let
me know if you have any info on other Sunzeris!
Message 54
Date: Dec 30 1999
From: Richard LaScola
Subject: Re: Sunzeri
Message: I am Richard la Scola from N. Ridgeville, Ohio La Scola family from
Trabia...la Scola and Sunseri intermarried. Salvatore Sunseri Born 1855 Died
1946 Married Pietrina La Scola Born 1871 Died 1936. I have that complete
line to present day..
Message 55
Date: Dec 30 1999
From: Frank Petro
Subject: Re: Chiesa Matrice / Chiesa Madre
Message: For Sandy Clark & Pat Palisano
Sandy, you refer to the Chiesa Matrice - yes this is the Mother Church - or
Cathedral. They would certainly have the Catholic Church records for birth,
marriages, and deaths.
While I've never tried to obtain any records from them, I have heard of
individuals actually going to the Cathedral over there (and other towns),
with no success. I believe the lady who did research for Laura Johnson also
said that. They say they can't be bothered with all the requests for
research, and no one outside of the clergy is allowed to handle those fragile
old records.
Also keep in mind that Church records are different from Civil records.
Civil records are what the Mormon's have filmed at the Stato Civile offices I
believe. When looking at these records one might think they are church
records because they have a portion devoted to the "Sagramento del Battesimo'
on births for instance. But in Italy I think the line between separation of
church and state is more subtle - in other words the state required
information on the baptism in order to complete the registration of birth.
Just as an aside on the term CHIESA MATRICE. Chiesa is the word for church,
but I believe that Matrice (pronounced ma-tree-she) is Sicilian dialect for
Madre or mother church. My grandmother also referred to the 'Cathedral' in
Cleveland as Matrice.
As to Phil's question on the actual name of the Termini Cathedral:
It is officially named : Chiesa Madre dedicated to San Nicola di Bari. (see
www.comune.termini-imerese.pa.it/Inglese and click on History)
Other 'nick names' for it are: Piazza Duome or IL Duomo .
It's really a beautiful place, and much art work inside.
Message 56
Date: Dec 30 1999
From: Laura Johnson
Subject: Dec 30 1999
Message: Kathy Kirkpatrick, who has done research for several of us on this list, tried
to contact the church
while she was in Termini Imerese. They turned her away at the door and told
her that no one could
have access to those records. She has tried several times.
I wrote to the Chiesa Madre asking for information and received a letter which
essentially said the
same thing - access denied. I was told that you can write to the Vatican and
ask for permission to
see ancestral records but you will also have to send certified copies of all
birth certificates and
marriages showing your lineage before they will accept the request and then,
they might still deny
you access. Has anyone tried this method to obtain information?
Message 57
Date: Dec 31 1999
From: Pat Palmisano
Subject: Re: Chiesa Matrice / Chiesa Madre
Message: You wouldn't need to see the records if you had all that info since that's
what you're trying to prove. A generous donation will do much to open the
files, I'm sure.
Message 58
Date: Dec 31 1999
From: Sandra Clark
Subject: Re: Chiesa Matrice
Message: Pat,
The Toronto-Termini Journal is published quarterly in Toronto - they
have a large population with Termini roots. It's free and you can write
to subscibe to:
TT Journal
c/o S. Cusimano
5584 Yonge St.
Toronto, Ontario
Canada, M2N 5S2
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